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3.2.11 Kathāvatthu (select.)
Refuting Wrong Doctrines
Kathāvatthu (select.) | Refuting Wrong Doctrines |
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Puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti. Āmantā. | “Is ‘personality’ perceived in the sense of real and ultimate reality?” “Certainly!” |
Yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenāti? | “Then, can ‘personality’ be perceived in the sense of real and ultimate reality like a real and ultimate fact is perceived?” |
Na hevaṃ vattabbe. | “That cannot truly be said so!” |
Ājānāhi niggahaṃ. | “Recognize your contradiction! |
Hañci puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena, tena vata re vattabbe: | Because if personality could be perceived in the sense of real and ultimate reality then one should also be able to say: |
‘‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. | ‘personality’ can be perceived in the sense of real and ultimate reality like a real and ultimate fact is perceived! |
Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho: | But if you said thus: ‘indeed it could be said: |
‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ no ca vattabbe – ‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho: | ‘personality’ cannot be perceived in the sense of real and ultimate reality like a real and ultimate fact is perceived’ and then (at the same time you say): ‘indeed it could not be said: |
tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā. | ‘personality’ can be perceived in the sense of real and ultimate reality’ then this is false!” |
No ce pana vattabbe: ‘‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti, no ca vata re vattabbe: | If one could not say: ‘personality’ can be perceived in the sense of real and ultimate reality like a real and ultimate fact is perceived’ then how could it be said: |
‘‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’ti. | ‘personality’ can be perceived in the sense of real and ultimate fact’? |
Yaṃ tattha vadesi – ‘‘vattabbe kho – ‘puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthena,’ | Then if you said thus: ‘indeed it could be said: ‘personality’ can be perceived in the sense of real and ultimate reality and then (at the same time you say): |
no ca vattabbe: ‘yo saccikaṭṭho paramattho, tato so puggalo upalabbhati saccikaṭṭhaparamatthenā’’’ti micchā. | ‘indeed it could not be said: ‘personality’ can be perceived in the sense of real and ultimate reality like a real and ultimate fact is perceived’ then this is false!” |
Suddhasaccikaṭṭho, Puggalakathā, Anulomapaccanīkaṃ, Kathāvatthupāḷi, Abhidhammapiṭake
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